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◇ Jae-Hong Park> There are about two weeks left until the 6.1 local elections. There is a hot election battle going on in each region right now. Today, we will connect Candidate Oh Se-hoon, Mayor of the People’s Power, to share our policies and promises and talk about the current political situation. Hello, Candidate Sehun Oh.
◆ Sehun Oh> Hello, nice to meet you.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> The official election campaign will start tomorrow, and you must be very busy.
◆ Sehun Oh> My heart is very busy.
◇ Park Jae-hong> Right now, we are with writer Jin Joong-kwon and director Kim Seong-hoe. We will ask you a question together.
◆ Sehun Oh> Hello.
◆ Seong-Hye Kim> Hello.
◆ Jin Joong-kwon> Hello.
◇ Jaehong Park> Yesterday. At the Press Center, there was a public debate on the invitation of the Seoul mayor candidate, and if he had appointed the candidate for the new government, then candidate Jeong Ho-young would not have been able to do so.
◆ Sehun Oh> That’s what I said.
◇ Jaehong Park> Which part do you think is the problem?
◆ Sehun Oh> Isn’t there a part that everyone raises a problem in the world? I also agree with the public issues raised by the children, including the transfer school issue. Rather than that, the fact is that the Minister of Health and Welfare is the Ministry of Health and Welfare, so it is related to what doctors do, but in reality, welfare work is much broader and deeper than any practical experience or such. It was said with the intention that it would be better if someone who had dedicated themselves to it.
(Seoul = Yonhap News) Reporter Ha Sa-heon = People’s Power Candidate Oh Se-hoon announces his promises at the opening ceremony of the election office held at the Korea Press Center in Jung-gu, Seoul on the 14th. 2022.5.14 toadboy@yna.co.kr Yonhap News
◆ Jin Jung-kwon> On the other hand, you answered that you are personally interested in Minister Han Dong-hoon. In what sense?
◇ Jaehong Park> What kind of interest do you have?
◆ Sehun Oh> As I said yesterday, he will work hard on the investigation and catch the bad guy. That’s easy to say, but isn’t that the most essential job for the Justice Minister or the Prosecutor General to do in the Ministry of Justice? He seemed very full of will in that matter, so what he said was very believable and trustworthy, so I decided that it would be worth entrusting this job to him.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> In that sense, you said that interest will increase. If we look at the polls for a moment, if we look at the survey conducted by Research & Research and the Dong-A Ilbo, if you look at the surveys on the 14th and 15th, our candidate Se-hoon Oh is 52.4% and the Democratic Party candidate Song Young-gil is 27.2%. So the difference is almost double the difference. You are leading by 25.2 percentage points, but was there a Seoul mayor election with such a difference? How do you judge the candidate?
◆ Se-Hoon Oh> I do not believe the results of such polls at all.
◇ Jaehong Park> Is that so?
◆ Sehun Oh> For some reason, there were times when I was 20%, 15% ahead, and there were times when I won by a marginal difference. Also, it was known that he was ahead of the last presidential election held a while ago, but looking at the results, isn’t it that much of a difference?
◇ Jay Park> About 0.7%.
◆ Sehun Oh> So, actually, it is important to go realistically and get a ticket. When you passively answer the phone, saying that I like or support someone, I think that it is a big deal if you relax after seeing it.
◆ Kim Seong-Hye> Candidate Seong-Hye Kim> You speak so humbly, but if you look at the polls that have been conducted since the recent presidential election, it seems that Seoulites have a much higher affinity for the mayor than for President Yoon Seok-Yeol. Regardless of how much has passed, even though the ability is for example Lee Jae-myung, those who voted for Yun Seok-yeol now show a higher approval rate if Mayor Oh Se-hoon comes out. What do you think is your strength compared to the president?
◆ Jin Joong-kwon> We are having a strange affair.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> Why with the President? Candidate, please tell me first.
◆ Seong-Hye Kim> It is true that he is the politician with the highest approval rating in Seoul.
◆ Sehun Oh> I am truly grateful to you for giving me such replies and expressing support. The fact that there is such a difference this time is, in fact, I think that the opponent’s expression of a position or things like that had some influence. As for what he often said during interviews, he often said that he had considered running for office in Busan, but he chose Seoul for the party. Now, the citizens of Seoul who hear such words, I think that this person probably did not think much about improving the quality of life for the happiness of Seoul citizens. Another thing is that, as a result, aren’t you under reasonable suspicion now that you vacated your constituency in order to make the investigation difficult and evade by doing so in order to give Candidate Jae-myung Lee the badge of a member of the National Assembly? Isn’t it the case that you decide to support the situation by looking at the situation in general? That’s how I analyze it.
(Seoul = Yonhap News) Reporter Lim Heon-jeong = Lee Jae-myung, standing adviser to the Democratic Party of Korea, and Song Young-gil, Seoul mayor candidate, who are running for the Incheon National Assembly by-election in Gyeyang, are appealing to citizens for support in front of Hongdae, Mapo-gu, Seoul on the afternoon of the 16th. 2022.5.16 kane@yna.co.kr Yonhap News
◇ Park Jae-hong> On the other hand, the Seoul mayor candidate’s opinion polls are not at all bland, but the governor of Gyeonggi-do is coming out with bubbling. As our candidates know. But in the midst of this, Kang Yong-seok’s approval rating came out with a meaningful number. The issue of unification continues to arise. Of course, the people’s power side is saying this, but how do you see the election situation for the Gyeonggi governor?
◆ Oh Se-Hoon> Well, I don’t know if I’m talking about Seoul, but I don’t know the situation in Gyeonggi-do. Also, even if you know it, I don’t think it’s appropriate to mention it.
◇ Park Jae-hong> Candidate Eun-hye Kim seems to be trying to go together while emphasizing the one-team spirit with the candidate.
◆ Jin Joong-kwon> To bury him.
◆ Sehun Oh> Of course. Seoul, Gyeonggi, and Incheon are called Megalopolis, so Tokyo area, Shanghai area, and Shinjin area. Also among our rivals is Singapore. Compared to places like this, the size is a bit small to compete with Seoul alone. In that sense, Seoul and Gyeonggi-do should always form a cooperative relationship that can create synergy effects. It is the cooperation point of Seoul, Gyeonggi, Gyeonggi and Incheon. It is clear that it is a relationship that will probably require frequent meeting, discussion, and gathering of hearts to resolve the matter.
◇ Jaehong Park> That’s right. Now, in earnest, I would like to inquire about our Seoul mayor candidate Oh Se-hoon’s vision for Seoul. Now, it seems that one of the policy keywords proposed by the candidate is reassurance. That’s why he said, “I will make a safe city for single-person households, women, and families today.” You came up with a new project related to real estate. What kind of policy is this?
◆ Se-Hoon Oh> So to put it simply, redevelopment or reconstruction usually takes about 7 to 8 years from planning to completion, and up to 10 years if delayed. If you look at the cause of the delay, there are various causes, but it is very delayed because the traffic review, environmental review, architecture review, etc. are all done separately in sequence. It’s been taking me 5 years now. So, it is a quick integration because it is integrated and deliberation is conducted at once. So, by moving forward from 5 years to 2 years, shouldn’t we now recover the very hostile policies for reconstruction and redevelopment that existed during the previous mayor’s time? You have to be quick to catch up, so I came up with this idea, which is very well-received in the market right now and works really well.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> Real estate prices are going up because you’re welcome, aren’t you, Mayor? Homeless people seem to be worried again.
◆ Sehun Oh> It’s rather the opposite. Redevelopment, there is no vacant land in Seoul now. Therefore, since it is impossible to develop a new city, real estate must be supplied through redevelopment or reconstruction. However, if you take the average over the past 10 years, statistically, 22,000 households were supplied, and 22,000 households were supplied annually. So, half of the original supply could not be supplied, so now it has provided the cause of the sudden rise in real estate prices.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> Was the supply in short supply?
◆ Se-Hoon Oh> That’s what Song Young-Gil also admits this time. Therefore, supplying a lot of new housing quickly has the effect of suppressing the rise in real estate prices now, and this is the way for the homeless ordinary people.
(Seoul = Yonhap News) Reporter Baek Seung-ryeol = People’s Strength Seoul Mayor Oh Se-hoon announces a plan to build a high-quality, Seoul-style rental house in front of an apartment management office in Segeomjeong-ro, Seodaemun-gu, Seoul on the 13th. 2022.5.13 srbaek@yna.co.kr Yonhap News
◆ Seong-Hye Kim> But on the other hand, even if the supply is increased on the other hand, in fact, if there is a supply in the metropolitan area or Gyeonggi region, they will come to Seoul, and people from the provinces will also try to come to Seoul. There will be comments like this.
◆ Sehun Oh> Well, that is the opinion of the minority. Many experts and most analysts agree that this happened because there was not enough supply, and candidate Song Young-gil is also making a promise under such a cause analysis.
◇ Jaehong Park> That’s right. Another thing that I am interested in among your promises is safe income. Jae-myung Lee often said that it is different from basic income, and he said that the more money you earn, the more benefits you get. Where is that income? The more money you make, the more benefits you get.
◆ Sehun Oh> You need to understand the structure. In the case of the current basic recipient system, once you are selected as a basic recipient, you will avoid it even if you have an opportunity to work thereafter. Because if your income increases, you fail to meet the conditions and you are eliminated. So, I made a system like that, called safe income. It was not made by me, but what the scholars made, and now I have elaborated it. In fact, those who are living in hardship set the standard at a certain level, that is, 85% of the median income, but the median income refers to the middle. If the middle income is defined as the middle income for those with high to low income, 85% of that income is slightly lower than the median income. For those who do not meet that income, 50% of the portion that is less than 85% will be added to what they earned. If you do this, the more you earn, the more support you will receive. I’ll add 50% of what’s missing from the baseline. So, for example, if you don’t earn anything, you’re helping 50% of the gap. So, if you draw a graph, if you add up your earnings and government subsidies, the more you work, the more you can take with you. It is easy to understand if you show the graph.
In any case, it is to provide support for living expenses to the low-income class without diminishing their will to work. Why is that good? Although protection for the second and lower classes, including the basic recipient system, is being made, there are 890,000 households in Seoul alone in the welfare blind spot. A typical case is a case that was discovered a month ago in Changsin-dong a month ago, after the mother and child died without even receiving basic beneficiary protection. It happened because these people did not qualify for the basic beneficiary because they have a house worth 170 million won that is now in ruins. There are 890,000 households of these people. So, if this safe income system is introduced, this blind spot will disappear 100%. If you do this all of a sudden from the beginning, there are disadvantages to preparing for various things, so the Seoul Metropolitan Government selected 500 households, this year. Next year, 300 more households will be selected and 800 will be selected. So these 500 and 800 households are compared with 1600 households of those who are currently protected by the Basic Recipient System, and experts follow up. for three years. I’m going to test that out now.
How do these people change their will to work, how they try to earn a little more, how their lifestyle and consumption patterns change, and how their family relationships change. Sociologists, psychologists, statisticians, and welfare scientists all stick together and follow up on this. This income security experiment is now being conducted in Berlin and in several cities in the United States, and all cities share information and start research together. I have already been selected today because I planned to do the safe income pilot project for three years. It is prepared for one year and is paid from October 1st. The experiment begins. So, based on the results of the three-year follow-up survey, it is now decided whether or not to expand nationwide.
◇ Jaehong Park> That’s right. That is to say, it is not an all-out implementation, but rather that the research is being conducted and carried out through experiments.
◆ Sehun Oh> Because this is an experiment in which the welfare system is completely different. You have to be very careful. Instead, you have to accumulate data over and over again with very rigorous follow-up. Now, after the Yoon Seok-Yeol government took office, is it necessary to do it for three years to have some greed? Looking at the results of the general election two years later, if only a majority of seats can be secured, I will suggest that the central government adopt it in the latter half of the Yun Seok-Yeol administration.
◇ Jaehong Park> That’s right. Writer Jin.
◆ Jin Jung-kwon> In other words, isn’t this the idea of changing the TBS traffic broadcast, which is currently a hot topic in connection with the education issue, into an educational broadcast? But these days, Kim Eo-jun is working hard on traffic broadcasting. In particular, isn’t there a section where you go to work to the Yongsan office? He was focusing on that part, but is the status of TBS changing anyway? What are your thoughts?
◆ Se-Hoon Oh> This time I formalized what I had been thinking about for a long time. As you know, TBS is a traffic broadcast. So, in a nutshell, this is a broadcast to get information while driving, but these days, the number of people who drive based on traffic information from traffic broadcasts after holding the steering wheel has significantly decreased, so isn’t it almost non-existent? Now the app. Even me, when I get to the steering wheel, I turn on the T-map and start driving.
◇ Jaehong Park> Navigation.
◆ Se-Hoon Oh> That’s why we’re going to have a discussion about changing the use of the frequency to a use that some kind of citizen needs much more with with the newly formed city council. As an alternative, educational broadcasts such as EBS were suggested. Why did you think of educational broadcasting, in the era of the so-called 4th industrial revolution, a lot of jobs change and disappear just because it is the end of labor? Therefore, continuous re-education and lifelong education are necessary, and if such education through the Internet is fused with broadcasting functions, a synergistic effect will be created.
◆ Jin Joong-kwon> So, how is your relationship with EBS? Because there is one educational broadcast, and another educational broadcast is being made.
◆ Se-Hoon Oh> EBS is also a great educational broadcast, but Seoul citizens have to work for the rest of their lives, continuing to receive vocational education while doing the 2nd and 3rd copies of their lives, equip them with new content, and change them to new jobs. As for the educational content, I think that even two, three, or four are not enough. In that sense, there is a program called Seoul Run in Seoul that has already started, and now 13,000 people who have already taught online lectures by those who are said to be low-income children at a private academy in Gangnam and other lecturers in the world are already being educated. In addition, it is a one-to-one tutoring service with college students and graduate students as mentors. For me, this is a vicious cycle of poverty, in other words, if you don’t get an education, you can’t go to a good college, but you can’t get a job, and you can pass it on to your children again. Somewhere in this area, I think that this should be cut off, so in fact, I have been constantly trying this kind of thing through the topic of fair city. Even with this, if the educational broadcasting station works properly and is connected to the Internet, I think it will be very effective.
◆ Seong-Hye Kim> By the way, TBS basically has radio frequencies on the airwaves, and then there are YouTube and TV channels, but I am not sure if the character of a radio channel is suitable for educational broadcasting because it is broadcast on cable. Then.
◆ Sehun Oh> So, what I’m talking about now is not just radio broadcasts.
◆ Kim Seong-Hye> So, the majority of TBS members were selected by optimizing the radio.
◆ Sehun Oh> Well.
◆ Seong-Hye Kim> Rather, in the direction of eliminating the news factory. Don’t you think that there is no big problem if it disappears?
◆ Sehun Oh> It’s not like that. Even if I keep saying it’s a misunderstanding, there are people who keep driving me like that, but that doesn’t mean that at all. No, and the union issued a statement yesterday, and what does it mean to eliminate the liberal arts program or the talk program? I never said that such liberal arts programs would be abolished. As I said now, I raised the topic of changing it to a function that citizens can use much more like Altoran in the future. So it’s not that I’m going to make a decision, there’s a TBS ordinance anyway. This cannot be changed unless the city council passes it. So, I said to the city council that I would start an in-depth discussion with the newly formed city council.
◇ Jaehong Park> That’s right. Also, the mayor said in an interview with Kim Hyun-jung on a news show last year that the biggest strength is to persuade him little by little. Also, would you like to have a conversation with TBS members if you are re-elected in the future?
◆ Sehun Oh> Of course. How would you do this without a conversation? Now, I feel that they are doing a politically biased broadcast, so maybe a thief has a numbness in my foot, so I think they are reacting a bit sensitive like that. In the future, through dialogue, we will have a good conversation toward clearing up misunderstandings and changing the function in a direction that is more helpful to the citizens of Seoul.
◆ Seong-Hye Kim> But it’s surprising that you use the word thief against journalists.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> Lastly, I will finish by listening to the final remarks that Candidate Se-Hoon Oh paints the city of Seoul like this.
◆ Se-Hoon Oh> As I put forward as my first pledge this time, the 4-piece set of protection for the low-income and vulnerable class is the core content of the city where the social ladder is created, a city of coexistence that I want to invest and lead in the future. So, by upgrading the rental housing quality, I plan to make it a residential space where you can feel really proud, not the poor living environment as it is today. As I just explained about Seoul Run, I also explained that medical services are not discriminated against, so the main contents of the salaries that basic recipients receive are four things: livelihood, housing, education, and medical care. Since we have come up with four package policies in line with this, I will really focus on this for 4 years. The business environment of Seoul that is economically helpful to the citizens who have suffered a lot from the Corona virus now by creating a business environment that requires as much devotion as it is to make Seoul a city that creates and overflows with a lot of high-quality jobs that are sustainable in name and reality. We will also create a work environment. Let’s work really hard on these two. Please help.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> I hope that you finish the election in good health. Thank you for your words.
◆ Sehun Oh> Thank you.
◇ Jae-Hong Park> Se-Hoon Oh, the People’s Power, was a candidate for mayor of Seoul.
