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Seong Il-jong, “Why can’t we have a four-party discussion? People are interested in a bilateral discussion” [한판승부]

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◇ Jae-Hong Park> You are the head of the working-level negotiations for the People’s Power TV debate. Let’s connect Rep. Il-jong Seong, the People’s Power, by phone. Senator, are you with me?

◆ Seong Il-jong> I’m Seong Il-jong, a member of the legislator. Hello?

◇ Park Jae-hong> Did the Democratic Party say that they would accept proposals for bilateral discussions?

◆ Seong Il-jong> I do not feel the sincerity of who I am. The reason is that they say that they are going to have a bilateral discussion and that they want to have a four-party discussion together. They ask you to come to the negotiating table.

◇ Jae-Hong Park> I have adopted children and also have 4 children.

◆ Seong Il-jong> Then, we’re going to do at least 4 hours a day, but it’s not polite to the candidate in the first place. It is not polite to the people to force four hours of presidential debate on TV. That is why, in the original case, candidate Lee Jae-myung asked Candidate Yoon Seok-yeol to discuss this issue, wouldn’t it? So we responded and both parties came to an agreement. So, the People’s Party has now requested a trial because it’s a bit unfair for just two people to do this. According to Article 80 of the Election Act in the court, those who meet certain conditions, who have 5 or more seats and who have received 3% or more of the votes in the general election, or an average of 5% or more for one month, are required to participate. Under what conditions, if this is the content of the verdict of the bill, wouldn’t it be invited by the broadcasting company? When the subject of the invitation is broadcasting, it is said that these people should participate. According to the agreement of the two parties, it is up to the two parties to decide whether the two parties participate or not, as the two parties agree not to invite broadcasters. For that reason, we will have bilateral discussions with both parties first, and we will have a bilateral discussion first and then a four-party discussion through working-level discussions. This is how we summarized our position.

◆ Jin Joong-kwon> Wait a minute. I’m angry right now. Let’s have a discussion, what do you have a lot to add? And isn’t it a TV debate now? We were going to have a TV debate.

◇ Jaehong Park> Professor Jin, please speak softly for a moment.

◆ Jin Joong-kwon> We decided to have a TV discussion, but then let’s avoid TV debate and have a bilateral discussion. All the people were expecting a four-party debate when the court’s decision was made. But I don’t understand what rationale is there for you to do something like this, the hell.
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◆ Seong Il-jong> No. Professor Jin speaks very directly, but the bilateral discussion was decided between the Democratic Party and our party. You made a promise. If we do it, it’s a broadcast, and everyone can come and broadcast. So, on the 31st, from 7 to 9, if we have a bilateral discussion so that the public can see it, all the broadcasts will come and just air it. You don’t have to come to another broadcast. You will be able to see enough for the public. That’s what we’re going to do. After that, isn’t the four-party debate with the dominant candidates and the 1st and 2nd parties?

◇ Jae-Hong Park> Senator, for the reason you said this, when you say that you are having a bilateral discussion, don’t do it in court. Now 4 people do it. The court’s judgment came out that it was fair, but from the point of view of the people, it is writer Jin’s point that it can be viewed as an extremely unfair act to conduct such a bilateral discussion. How would you answer this?

◆ Seong Il-jong> You can misunderstand that part right now. After all, candidate Kim Dong-yeon and candidate Lee Jae-myung decided to have a bilateral discussion. That’s right. I decided to do that. It can be done by agreement between both parties. However, when the host is a broadcasting company or a third-party organization is doing this, the election law says not to do it. It’s not about doing both, but everyone who meets certain conditions should do it. But because the public wants to see the bilateral debate a lot and the Democratic Party has requested it, we are going to have a bilateral discussion and hold the 4th party after that. And the four-party discussion is legally required to be held three times. However, this number 3 is mandatory, but if you request additionally other than this, we will do it.

◆ Jin Joong-kwon> What the court has now decided is that there is a discussion on TV that day, and a discussion on a broadcasting company, and it is unfair for two people to do that part. Then, having a TV discussion and having 4 people together is a reasonable solution. We won’t have a TV discussion there, let’s do it separately. So what will the people become, now?

◆ Seong Il-jong> Isn’t the person making the invitation not the broadcasting company now? As a broadcaster, broadcasting has a public nature. That’s why the broadcaster invited me to do it. We both agreed and requested a broadcaster, but the broadcaster invited me, so all four of us had to do it. Then, if 4 candidates and 4 candidates except for the moderator’s remarks and closing and opening remarks, it will take less than 30 minutes. Therefore, even if the time is extended after that, the four-party debate is set up once again, and there is something originally discussed between the two parties, so what the two parties discussed can be done without these two candidates. That’s why we’re going to do what both parties TV originally promised.

◆ Kim Seong-hoe> Rep. Park Min-min talked about it today, but didn’t he suggest that we have a bilateral discussion? But now that they are asking for a four-party discussion, they say it’s a trick. Then, isn’t it simple if you have a two-party discussion?

◆ Seong Il-jong> No. I’m having a bilateral discussion. A four-party discussion can be held after the discussion by the four working-level parties.

◆ Seong-Hye Kim> So, is it okay to think that the bilateral discussion will take place on January 31st?

◆ Seong Il-jong> I will do it right away if the Democratic Party receives it.

◆ Kim Seong-hoe> The Democratic Party got it, Rep. Park Jumin?

◆ Seongiljong> Can you do all four hours a day? and government. . .

◆ Kim Seong-hoe> I ask again, but the power of the people can do it in a way that accepts bilateral discussions and does not appear in the four-party debate, so I’m asking the position on that.

◆ Seong Il-jong> On the 31st, we have a bilateral discussion between 7:00 and 9:00. It’s about having a four-party discussion again after the 31st through working-level discussions, not avoiding it.

◇ Jaehong Park> Will there be a four-party discussion in early February?

◆ Seong Il-jong> Yes. Hasn’t that already been suggested, we are all. But Rep. Park Joo-min said to do it for 4 hours on the same day, at least.

◇ Jae-Hong Park> So, do you mean that you understand the proposal to have a two-hour discussion between 7 and 9 o’clock and have a two-hour discussion before that?

◆ Seong Il-jong> Let’s have a bilateral discussion first, so we’ll have a discussion between the two sides from 7:00 to 9:00, and then we’ll have to meet them to find out if we’re going to have a four-letter discussion. Considering the context, let’s have a bilateral discussion first and then a four-party discussion. However, working 4 hours a day is not a time for evaluation, but a time of pain for the people. That is why.

◇ Jae-Hong Park> But, I think candidate Yoon Seok-Yeol continues to be negative about the four-party debate. So, in the case of four people in the primary process, the discussion is not a discussion-like discussion, so there is an article like this, preferring a bilateral discussion. Can all these discussions be acceptable regardless of the conditions?

◆ Seong Il-jong> It’s not that you’re negative. How can you properly discuss this in less than 30 minutes? So, two hours of bilateral discussion or three hours is enough, and then, after that, we will discuss the time, agenda, and other things for the four-party discussion.

◇ Jae-Hong Park> Let’s have a four-party discussion in early February, this is the position of the people’s power.

◆ Seong Il-jong> Yes. You just need to negotiate.

◇ Park Jae-Hong> The Democratic Party will have bilateral and four-party discussions on the 31st. This is how many hours a day can the people spend? Are you in this position? From the point of view of the people’s power?

◆ Seong Il-jong> That’s right. It is not polite to the people.

◆ Jin Joong-kwon> A bilateral discussion cannot be hosted by three broadcasting companies, right?

◆ Seong Il-jong> Yes.

◆ Jin Jung-kwon> Is that right? But then, what the people expected is that they expected the presidential debate that the three broadcasting companies would broadcast. After that, it was the 31st that I was arrested, so I expected to do it that day. So, after receiving this, can’t the two of us take care of the discussion and do it together with the internet media?

◆ Seong Il-jong> No, it is not an internet medium. If it happens between the two, it will be broadcast by all three broadcasters, the final episode, or the Internet media. Do what you want to do, and don’t do what you don’t want to do. However, it is not difficult for the people to judge and the people to see. That is why, even if we go to a bilateral discussion, the public will see and there is no flaw in our judgment.

◆ Jin Joong-kwon> It is very difficult to have a discussion once, really. What are we going to do?

◇ Jae-Hong Park> Writer Jin seems to have a little bit of regret.

◆ Seong Il-jong> No, our method is correct. How do you do it all four times a day?

◇ Jaehong Park> I understand. Then, Candidate Dong-Yeon Kim also proposed a discussion to Candidate Seok-Yeol Yoon, can that debate be held?

◆ Seong Il-jong> We will review that. We heard that you said on Facebook that you were still dealing with this issue today, but we haven’t been able to discuss it yet.

◆ Seong-Hye Kim> Senator, is there any other reason why it has to be the 31st?

◆ Seong Il-jong> I ask for a good time so that generations can come together and many people can see and evaluate this program so that many people can see and evaluate which candidate has many flaws or not, and whether they are well aware of the country’s future and current issues. So, the golden time is between 7pm and 9pm the day before the new year on the 31st, when the generations gather.

◆ Kim Seong-hoe> So accepting that, if the court said that it would be nice to have a 4th discussion, I think you can do that and have a bilateral discussion. It looks a little different, doesn’t it?

◆ Seong Il-jong> Most likely, the public is interested in the 1st or 2nd party.

◆ Kim Seong-hoe> I think the public’s interest is that candidate Yoon Seok-yeol comes to the forum and discusses it in some form.

◇ Jaehong Park> I understand, Senator. I’ll listen up to here. Thank you.

◆ Seong Il-jong> I understand. thank you.

◇ Park Jae-hong> It was Assemblyman Il-jong Seong, the head of the working-level negotiation group for the People’s Power TV debate.