Former Idea Bank CEO Questions Successor’s Credibility – Puls Biznesu
Three former heads of Idea Bank met in the courtroom. This was due to a trial to determine the obligation of the institution’s managers and cooperating companies for the distribution of GetBack bonds and Trigon Profit funds associated with GetBack. Two former bank presidents are defendants in the case. The vice president, who served as acting president immediately before resolution, i.e., compulsory restructuring, appeared as a witness.This former president of PKO BP and first vice president of NBP signed a notification of a crime committed by several rank-and-file bank employees and several members of the management team, who are among the 16 defendants in the managers’ trial.
The court revealed the testimony that the last head of Idea Bank gave during the preparatory proceedings, allowing us to know what irregularities he accused those who were on the board before him of.
He accused President Jarosław Augustyniak and Dariusz M., a member of the management board responsible for sales, of abusing their powers by arranging the sales process in a way that exposed the bank to liability for damages. In response to a question from attorney Maciej Górczak,the defender of Tobiasz B., the second of the accused presidents of idea Bank, the witness stated that the launch of GetBack bond sales took place without the knowledge of the other members of the management board and supervisory board, and without compliance opinions. At the very end of the court session, Jarosław Augustyniak challenged this.He pointed out that the management board, the chairman of the supervisory board, and Izabela Lubczyńska, a member of the board, received daily sales reports. These did not contain the names of specific products, but the monthly reports did.
– In the minutes after the KNF (Polish Financial Supervision Authority) inspection, there is a note that the supervisory board knew about the distribution of GetBack bonds because it received this report – Jarosław Augustyniak noted.
His defender asked the witness earlier on what basis he determined that the bond sales process took place without the knowledge of members of the management board other than Jarosław Augustyniak and Dariusz M.
– Based on materials attached to the application for the commission of a crime – replied the man who was once the head of PKO BP.
A moment later, he admitted that he had not seen the source documents on which the notification of the commission of a crime was based. Bogumił Zygmont, the attorney for Dariusz M.,delved into the topic of the notification. It turned out that when the witness became the head of Idea Bank,he was subordinate to,among others,the legal department,whose head was the currently accused Piotr L.
– Did you talk to Piotr L. about the notification? – asked Dariusz M.’s defender.
– I don’t remember – replied the witness.
– Who presented this topic to the management board? – was another question to which the witness also did not provide any specific answer.
Michał hajduk, the second of Dariusz M.’s attorneys, asked whether Leszek Czarnecki knew about or initiated the notifications of the commission of a crime.
– From my personal perspective, he knew as they were presented to the supervisory board and the management board, and as for initiating them, I don’t know because the audit process was already underway when I started working – replied the witness.
Complaints Only After the Fall
Table of Contents
- Idea Bank Trial: Key questions and Answers Regarding getback Bond Sales
- what is the Idea Bank trial about?
- Who are the key figures in the Idea Bank trial?
- What are the main accusations against Jarosław Augustyniak and Dariusz M.?
- What was Jarosław Augustyniak’s response to the accusations?
- What did the former head of PKO BP base his accusations on?
- did Leszek Czarnecki know about the notifications of the commission of a crime?
- Were there complaints about GetBack bonds during Jarosław Augustyniak’s term as president?
- Was the witness aware of Getin Noble Bank’s involvement with GetBack bonds?
- What was Getin Noble Bank’s connection to GetBack?
- what was the witness’s role at Noble Securities, and how does it relate to the case?
- What concerns were raised regarding the agreement with Konrad Kąkolewski and Piotr Osiecki?
- What was the accusation regarding a discount given to Mia company?
- key Individuals Involved
In the context of the accusation of exposing the bank to liability for damages as an inevitable result of participating in the distribution of GetBack bonds,the witness was unable to answer the question of Jarosław Augustyniak’s defender as to whether the complaints that came in connection with the sale of bonds concerned the period when Jarosław Augustyniak was the president. answering a question from the second of Jarosław Augustyniak’s defenders, he admitted at the same time that the complaints were not a important problem until GetBack’s bankruptcy.
– During my term,i.e., until the end of September 2017, there were no complaints regarding GetBack bonds – Jarosław Augustyniak emphasized at the end of the day.
Asked twice by the defenders of Jarosław Augustyniak and Dariusz M. about the sale of GetBack bonds by Getin Noble Bank in 2012-18, the witness replied that he did not know about it. Meanwhile, he was the vice president there from October 2016 to December 2018.
– The sale of bonds was not within the scope of my duties – the witness explained in response to Michał Hajduk’s question.
In the context of Getin Noble Bank’s connections with GetBack, Jarosław Augustyniak mentioned that GetBack was founded by the president and vice president of Getin Noble Bank, and the bank actively distributed bonds until the end of 2016. GetBack also managed investment funds related to the bank “on a large scale.”
– So it’s hard to say that the vice president knew nothing about it – said Jarosław Augustyniak.
He also recalled that when the distribution of bonds went to Noble Securities, the current witness, who reported him to the prosecutor’s office, was a member of the supervisory board of the brokerage house.
– I have been a member of supervisory boards several times, and there is no way that a member of the supervisory board does not know what is happening in the company – assured the currently accused president of Idea Bank.
GetBack’s Lawyer Asks About Sellers
in the notification addressed to the law enforcement authorities, the last head of Idea Bank had reservations towards jarosław Augustyniak regarding entering into an agreement with Konrad Kąkolewski, the president of GetBack, and Piotr Osiecki, the president of Altus TFI, when establishing an account related to the sale of EGB Investments to GetBack by Altus funds. In the preparatory proceedings, he claimed that Jarosław Augustyniak exerted pressure on the sales network employees regarding the sale of GetBack bonds so that the debt collector could use the money obtained in this way to purchase EGB Investments.
In this context, in the courtroom, the lawyer of Capita (the current name of GetBack) asked the last head of Idea Bank who the most significant participants of the Altus funds involved in the transaction were.
– I wouldn’t want to speculate now – replied the banker.
He was unable to answer the question of whether analyses were created at Idea Bank regarding who was the actual beneficiary of these funds. Marita grodzka-Dubois,defending Maciej G., one of the sales directors of idea Bank, asked about this.
In the preparatory proceedings, the last head of Idea bank claimed that Idea Bank had the right to provide marketing data about bonds, but not to sell them. If it had only conducted marketing activities, it would not have been possible to raise so much money in such a short time.
The notification to the prosecutor’s office submitted by the last head of Idea Bank also concerned exceeding powers in connection with granting a discount of approximately PLN 500,000 to Mia, a company associated with polski Dom Maklerski. Dariusz M.and Aneta Skrodzka-Książek,a member of the management board responsible for compliance (no charges),were said to have exceeded their powers.
Jarosław Augustyniak,Konrad Kąkolewski,and Piotr Osiecki,despite being charged,agree to the publication of their full personal data.
Idea Bank Trial: Key questions and Answers Regarding getback Bond Sales
A trial involving former heads of Idea Bank is underway, focusing on the distribution of GetBack bonds and related Trigon Profit funds. This Q&A explores the key issues raised during the trial.
what is the Idea Bank trial about?
the trial aims to determine the responsibility of Idea Bank’s managers and associated companies in the distribution of GetBack bonds and Trigon Profit funds. These funds are linked to GetBack, a debt collection company. the case involves allegations of abuse of power and potential damages to the bank.
Who are the key figures in the Idea Bank trial?
Defendants: Two former presidents of Idea Bank (Jarosław Augustyniak and Tobiasz B.).
Accused: Dariusz M., a former member of the management board responsible for sales.
Witness: the vice president who served as acting president instantly before the compulsory restructuring of Idea Bank, also former president of PKO BP.
Other Individuals Mentioned: Leszek Czarnecki, Piotr L., Konrad Kąkolewski, Piotr Osiecki, Aneta Skrodzka-Książek.
What are the main accusations against Jarosław Augustyniak and Dariusz M.?
The last head of Idea Bank accused Jarosław Augustyniak (former President) and Dariusz M. (former management board member responsible for sales) of abusing their authority. Specifically, thay allegedly arranged the sales process in a way that exposed Idea Bank to potential liability for damages.
What was Jarosław Augustyniak’s response to the accusations?
Jarosław Augustyniak countered the accusations by stating that the management board, the chairman of the supervisory board, and Izabela lubczyńska (board member) received daily sales reports. While these reports didn’t detail specific product names, monthly reports did. He pointed out that post-KNF inspection minutes indicated the supervisory board’s awareness of GetBack bond distribution.
What did the former head of PKO BP base his accusations on?
The former head of PKO BP, who served as a witness. based his accusations on materials attached to the notification of the commission of a crime. However, he admitted he had not seen the original source documents used to create the notification.
did Leszek Czarnecki know about the notifications of the commission of a crime?
according to the witness, from his viewpoint, Leszek Czarnecki knew about the notifications as they were presented to the supervisory board and the management board. However, the witness did not know if Czarnecki initiated them.
Were there complaints about GetBack bonds during Jarosław Augustyniak’s term as president?
According to Jarosław Augustyniak, there were no complaints regarding GetBack bonds during his tenure as president, which ended in September 2017. The witness also admitted complaints weren’t a major problem until after GetBack’s bankruptcy.
Was the witness aware of Getin Noble Bank’s involvement with GetBack bonds?
The witness stated he wasn’t aware of Getin Noble Bank’s sale of GetBack bonds between 2012 and 2018, despite being the vice president there from October 2016 to December 2018. He claimed the sale of bonds was not within the scope of his duties.
What was Getin Noble Bank’s connection to GetBack?
Jarosław Augustyniak pointed out that GetBack was founded by the president and vice president of Getin Noble Bank, and the bank actively distributed bonds until the end of 2016. GetBack also managed investment funds related to Getin Noble Bank.
what was the witness’s role at Noble Securities, and how does it relate to the case?
The witness was a member of the supervisory board of Noble Securities when the distribution of bonds shifted to the brokerage house. Jarosław Augustyniak suggested that, as a member of the supervisory board, the witness would have been aware of the activities within the company.
What concerns were raised regarding the agreement with Konrad Kąkolewski and Piotr Osiecki?
The last head of Idea Bank had reservations about Jarosław augustyniak entering into an agreement with Konrad Kąkolewski (president of GetBack) and Piotr Osiecki (president of Altus TFI) for an account related to the sale of EGB Investments to GetBack by Altus funds.
What was the accusation regarding a discount given to Mia company?
The last head of Idea Bank’s notification to the prosecutor’s office also concerned exceeding powers in connection with granting a discount of approximately PLN 500,000 to mia, a company associated with Polski Dom Maklerski. Dariusz M. and Aneta Skrodzka-Książek were said to have exceeded their powers in this instance.
key Individuals Involved
| name | Role/Position | Involvement |
| ——————— | ———————————————————————————————————- | ——————————————————————————————————————————————- |
| Jarosław Augustyniak | Former President of Idea Bank (defendant) | Accused of abusing power in the GetBack bond sales process; challenged accusations,stated daily sales reports were provided to board. |
| Dariusz M. | Former Management Board Member (responsible for sales) (accused) | Accused of abusing power in the GetBack bond sales process. |
| Witness (Ex-PKO BP) | Vice President of idea Bank (acting president before restructuring), Former President of PKO BP, Ex-NBP | Testified; filed notification of crime, accusing others in the bank; faced scrutiny regarding lack of direct evidence. |
| Leszek Czarnecki | | Questioned for possible initiating notifications of the commission of a crime.|
| konrad Kąkolewski | President of GetBack | Agreement with Idea Bank regarding EGB Investments sale raised concerns. |
| Piotr Osiecki | President of Altus TFI | Agreement with Idea Bank regarding EGB Investments sale raised concerns. |
