Carmen Llera on Moravia: Love, Jealousy & Loss
Dive into an intimate conversation revealing Carmen Llera Moravia’s life wiht Alberto Moravia.Discover a life marked by love, loss, and a profound understanding of human nature. Llera shares her earliest memories, reflecting on her childhood in Spain, the shadow of family trauma, and her evolving relationship with faith. She unveils the reality of Franco’s Spain, the vibrant youth movements post-dictatorship, and her fateful trip to Italy, where she ultimately met Moravia and their bond began. Learn how Elsa Morante felt about her, and the complex interplay of relationships and societal expectations.News Directory 3 provides readers with exclusive insights into this thought-provoking interview. What unforeseen details will be revealed next?
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Interview with Carmen Llera Moravia by Aldo Cazzullo
Summary: The writer and the years alongside Moravia: «After the news he left alone. Elsa Morante was happy with me.”
Interview:
Aldo Cazzullo: Carmen Llera Moravia, what is yoru first memory?
Carmen Llera Moravia: “I think it’s a false memory: the first steps, and the fear of the moon.”
AC: Why of the moon?
CLM: «When my mom came out, I asked my father were it was over, and he replied that if I was not good the moon would take her away. I was terrified of that moon that could have made me orphaned ».
AC: She was born in Tudela, Navarra, Spain.
CLM: «I was the smallest at home. Before me there was a sister, pink, with very blue eyes: he was drowned in a canal. He had gone out with the brothers and had never returned again,and that trauma my brothers took it inside for life ».
AC: Was your father Lorenzo Francoist?
CLM: «He was the mayor of a nearby country,but he did not do politics. He had fought the civil war with General Mola,but in the end he had not wanted to stay in the army,he did not stand the hierarchies. With my mother Severina they had met right in Guernica ».
AC: Com’It your Mother?
CLM: «Very high, different from the women of the Navarra. He lived with the uncles Carmen and Moisés. Maybe I have Jewish roots, even if to stay in Spain the Jews historically had to convert or hide their faith. Become Marranos ».
AC: How was Franco Spain Spain?
CLM: «I almost not realized the regime. At ten years of age they sent me from the nuns of the Company of Maria, the female version of the Jesuits. loyola is close to my land, I have always been linked to Sant’Ignazio, in Rome within its church ».
AC: Were the nuns severe?
CLM: «But no, they took us to see the Tour de France, when he went from Pamplona. I went crazy for Poulidor, who always came second: every time I shouted his name, one year he greeted me … ».
AC: The end of the dictatorship? The nightlife?
CLM: «I became very active among the young socialists,I met Alfonso Guerra,the deputy of Felipe Gonzalez,Enrique Baron and others. But in November 1977 I was already in Italy: reader at the University of Palermo. On the plane I found myself at the Salvo Lima, who offered me a passage in the city; Only after I understood who he was. From Spain came to hold a conference Julian Marias, the father of Javier Marias, a friend I miss a lot. I still speak to him ».
AC: Parla with Javier Marias?
CLM: «He died so early … when I pass in front of the hotel where he went down to Rome, near the Pantheon, I ask him: where are you? And I reread his books. Great writer.I’m a re-reader now ».
AC: Go back to Navarra again?
CLM: “The last time in the summer of 2003, when my father left. He had attempted suicide three times, without succeeding. He died at 91, nothing. I had called him from Sabaudia, and he saeid to me: I’m tired. After a while my mother called me to warn me: Dad died. I took the plane for Madrid, there were 43 degrees, I arrived in Tudela, I entered the tanatorium – in spanish it is said so, a much more stunning name than the morgue -, they had put it in the ice … ».
AC: How did you meet her husband, Alberto Moravia?
CLM: «it was 1980, I was working on my thesis on the relationships between cinema and literature. I went to Sabaudia from Graziella Chiarcossi, the cousin of Pasolini, wife of Vincenzo Cerami. I also saw the mother, Susanna, who had recited the part of the Madonna in the ”gospel according to Matteo”. And I met Moravia.For some time he had been with dacia Maraini anymore. I asked him about Buñuel, whom I had known and that alberto as president of the jury had rewarded in Venice for ”Belle de Jour”, the film with Catherine Deneuve. We started talking, and we didn’t leave each other anymore ».
AC: when did you get married?
CLM: «On January 27, 1986, after the death of elsa Morante, who had never granted him divorce. We had just returned from the Zimbabwe. I was 32 years old, he 78 »
AC: Did the Morante met her?
CLM: “Yes. He was already bad,but he was happy that there was a young Spanish woman next to her ex -husband ».
AC: She Carmen had already been married.
CLM: «At 18, with my beliefs professor, from whom I had my only son, Héctor. My father was very contrary, it was then that he tried to commit suicide for the first time. He said mine was just an infatuation. He was not wrong.”
AC: Now Bompiani republished his accomplished book, “Men”, in which he writes that he has never lost his head for love. Not even for Moravia?
CLM: “I loved Alberto as he was the only one who didn’t try to change me. He was so smart as to understand and accept my nature. He always said to me: “I will die and you will marry another”.”You are wrong,” I replied. In fact, he was wrong: I never got married. I’m so well alone ».
AC: But there is a song by Moravia in which he complains of his e
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