Anne Will discussed a ban on oil and gas heating from 2024. There was plenty of criticism of the draft law – nobody believed that it would become a reality, not even the traffic light representatives present.
The guests:
- Omid Nouripour, Greens Co-Chair
- Christian Dürr, FDP parliamentary group leader in the Bundestag
- Stephan Weil (SPD), Prime Minister of Lower Saxony (connected)
- Gitta Connemann (CDU), Chairwoman of the SME and Economic Union (MIT)
- Henrike Roßbach, Deputy Head of Parliament Office “Süddeutsche Zeitung”
After a brief attempt at appeasement by Green Party leader Omid Nouripour (“What is permanent will remain permanent”, “We will find ways together to make it affordable”) Christian Dürr was the first to adopt the formulation of his party leader: There it is he with Christian Lindner, explained the FDP parliamentary group leader in the Bundestag, “Habeck’s draft law has to go back to the assembly hall”.
FDP man Dürr wants climate protection, but “open to technology”
The goal of climate protection is correct, but it must be achieved with an open mind to technology, i.e. not only pushing the installation of heat pumps, but also considering hydrogen-powered gas heating as a possibility. Above all, one should not “overwhelm” private households.
The “SZ” capital city correspondent Henrike Roßbach was also skeptical: “You have to get to the building stock and heat generation. Only: I don’t think that you can use a crowbar to force things out within a few months, for which 15 years ago the course didn’t go have been corrected.” Such “rigid bans and deadlines” would “hit a lot of limits, right down to the craftsmen who may not even be there to install the heat pumps”.
Anne Will zu Nouripour: Was the Habeck draft hasty?
The Prime Minister of Lower Saxony, Stephan Weil, diplomatically expressed his reservations about the Habeck draft: “I think it’s absolutely right that the discussion got going,” said the SPD politician, especially in the years under CDU Economics Minister Peter Altmaier. practically nothing had happened in this respect”. But now you go “a step and a half too fast”. He doesn’t believe that “this proposal will come out in the end”.
As expected, the criticism of the CDU member of the Bundestag Gitta Connemann was more fundamental. “Climate protection only works with people, not against them,” said the chairwoman of the SME and Economic Union. Habeck’s plans, however, were “massively directed against owners and thus also against tenants”.
When Anne Will asked Omid Nouripour whether the draft had been “rushed” in view of so much criticism, he had already made friends with the Lindner word: “I don’t think the assembly hall is reprehensible,” he explained Green boss and pointed out that the finance minister had also withdrawn his budget into the same. At the same time, he added that the plans would only work “if we set up funding programs.”
SZ journalist Roßbach recognized “fundamental differences” between the three coalition partners: While the SPD and the Greens are more focused on redistribution and a strong role for the state, the FDP does not want that. She expressed understanding for Lindner’s efforts to “find a way back to normal households”.
With another clip, Anne Will steered the conversation to a current EU draft directive on building renovation, according to which all residential buildings in Germany must achieve energy standard D by 2033, i.e. a high level of energy efficiency.
