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At Lanz: Haselhoff sees integration limit “exceeded”

Reiner Haseloff sees the “integration limit” long since exceeded. That also explains the increasing crime. Markus Lanz is surprised and asks.

Saxony-Anhalt’s Prime Minister Reiner Haseloff (CDU) sees the refugee crisis as endangering public peace in Germany. Due to the high number of immigrants, the “integration limit” has been exceeded, he said on Thursday evening on “Markus Lanz”. This means that the fight against crime “can no longer be guaranteed”.

The guests

Reiner Haseloff (CDU), Prime Minister of Saxony-AnhaltChristine Strobl, program director Das ErsteSascha Lobo, authorAnne Hähnig, journalist “Zeit Online”

Lanz was surprised by the clear words. “That’s what you say?” the ZDF presenter interjected. Haseloff then warned of a permanent state overload that “we can no longer contain.” High social benefits in Germany would also attract poor people from areas without war, which would hurt the European Union as a whole. In 2015/16 it was mainly families who came, but now the majority are young men. The result is more aggression and crime.

Haseloff was frustrated by the slow implementation of agreements between the federal states and the federal government, such as the payment card for asylum seekers. “We need too long for these processes,” he criticized. The democratic parties must find solutions quickly: “Otherwise we will be punished politically,” said the Christian Democrat, referring to the current super election year.

Hähnig: Knife crime is a particular problem

Anne Hähnig, editorial director of “Zeit Online”, pointed out that the crime rate is generally higher among immigrants. As the number of foreigners increases, crime also increases. This is something that German society has to deal with, said the journalist. She singled out knife crime as a particular problem. More needs to be done here.

Lanz gets TikTok explained

Haseloff agreed on this point. Have we left the problem for too long? Lanz wanted to know. “In parts, certainly yes,” admitted Haseloff. “Spiegel” author Sascha Lobo, however, contradicted Lanz’s impression that certain truths should not be discussed in the German public. Headlines like “One in five foreigners is a criminal” have always existed, said the son of an Argentine. The problem should not be downplayed. But there is a great danger that this discussion will be exploited in a racist manner – for example on TikTok.

The video platform published in 2018, on which Chancellor Olaf Scholz (SPD) has had his own channel for a few days, still raised questions for Lanz. “Is this television for younger people?” he asked the digital expert Lobo. He didn’t think the comparison was all that inappropriate.

Lobo praised TikTok as a social network in which young people can learn things that are neglected at school – for example, about economics and finance. In contrast to Instagram, reach here is not primarily about a large number of followers. Rather, the algorithm rewards creative content that can quickly find a global audience.

Lanz: Too boring for TikTok

The next question brought Lanz an unexpected swipe from the public law colleague in the group. “If it’s boring, it’s out?” Lanz asked about TikTok. “So here,” Christine Strobl, program director Das Erste, interjected in a subdued tone, creating the most TikTok-worthy moment of the evening. Lanz preferred to ask whether he had heard correctly.

Strobl’s dry comment was somewhat reminiscent of her father Wolfgang Schäuble. The memoirs of the CDU party leader were published posthumously this week. Strobl suspected that her father might have been interested in TikTok. However, probably not so much in the pictures that Lobo had artificial intelligence create in real time on his smartphone in the “Lanz” studio. Chosen motif: Russian ruler Vladimir Putin with a cat in his arms.